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Originally Posted by rahl
Insurance premiums are going to rise. I don't care who here agree's with me or not that is going to be the reality of this bill. I have shown the basic mathematical certainty that when you increase the amount you are going to have to spend that you have to increase the amount that you take in to cover the difference. No one here wants to see the basic mathematical fact that this will be the case. I'm sorry but I can't help you if you're unwilling to see reality. I'm done with this debate because clearly reality is unimportant to everyone who refuses to see this simple fact
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I think premiums will rise too, but it will have more to do with the fact that this healthcare bill doesn't really do anything to reign in costs on the supply side of health care. It has nothing to do with your "basic mathematical certainty." Your "basic mathematical certainty" isn't basic, mathematical or certain. Jumping up and down and waving your arms doesn't make it so.
No one is shocked by the notion that increasing expenditures generally require increasing revenue. The disagreement comes in because you're basing your prediction of increasing expenditures on nothing more than a hunch. There is nothing certain about your assumption that the distribution of healthcare needs among current group of uninsured people will result in higher expenditures. A just as plausible assumption would be that these uninsured folk will actually result in lower expenditures.