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Old 12-30-2009, 12:03 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
uh huh. nice way to avoid the issue, rahl. as if personal responsibility, location, infrastructure (groceries, transportation) and income weren't tied together in some areas (amuricans like spatial segregation as the primary expression of class stratification) more than in others.
I haven't avoided anything. You, and other extreme liberals, believe that it's not the fault of the individual for the choices they make. Nobody forces a poor or rich person to buy and eat one particular type of food. So if you CHOOSE to eat poorly that is on you, not your circumstances, or lot in life. That is a cop out. There are fat and unhealthy rich people just as there are fat and unhealthy poor people. They both made the choice to not eat right and not excercise. That's fine, that's there right, but I'm not responsible for their decision

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
Wow, that's pretty extreme. What about the families who are eating hot dogs, mac & cheese, and canned peas....for every meal?

Okay, assuming health care will only get more expensive. So what? Health care is important. Why not trim the military budget by 1%, and it will pay for the whole thing. Plus there would probably be enough change left over to double the education budget. (Am I exaggerating?)

The families who eat hot dogs and mac and cheese for every meal are making a concsious choice to do so. for the price of a pack of hot dogs and mac and cheese you could buy trimmed turkey breasts and broccoli. It's a choice nothing more.

As to trimming other govn't spending to pay for health reform that would be fine, and that is what they should do, but they won't. Once the govn't starts spending it's not going to cut back.
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