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Jinn · 12-28-2009, 12:43 PM

As a Dawkins-esque atheist myself, I celebrate Christmas to the T. There is nothing in the current Christmas tradition, including presents, Santa, Christmas Trees, ornaments, Egg Nog, et. al that requires or even hints at Christ himself.

The value of presents, and time with family, and cozing up to the fire and all is far too positive a force to disregard simply because some religious idiots think the date coincides in any way, shape or form with the birth of Christ of Nazareth. Christmas was a co-opted pagan holiday, and still is a far more secular than religious holiday.

EDIT : to add this link; I'm not sure if you're familiar with the "Friendly Atheist" blog, but it's one of my favorites and it was the one I was thinking of when I saw this post. It does a good job of addressing why Atheists and Humanists and Freethinkers, etc., can celebrate Christmas.. http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/12/2...-the-holidays/

On an unrelated note, this is amusing for those of you with religious family: http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/12/2...-the-holidays/

EDIT2: Links were broken

12-28-2009, 12:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	As a Dawkins-esque atheist myself, I celebrate Christmas to the T. There is nothing in the current Christmas tradition, including presents, Santa, Christmas Trees, ornaments, Egg Nog, et. al that requires or even hints at Christ himself. The value of presents, and time with family, and cozing up to the fire and all is far too positive a force to disregard simply because some religious idiots think the date coincides in any way, shape or form with the birth of Christ of Nazareth. Christmas was a co-opted pagan holiday, and still is a far more secular than religious holiday. EDIT : to add this link; I'm not sure if you're familiar with the "Friendly Atheist" blog, but it's one of my favorites and it was the one I was thinking of when I saw this post. It does a good job of addressing why Atheists and Humanists and Freethinkers, etc., can celebrate Christmas.. http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/12/2...-the-holidays/ On an unrelated note, this is amusing for those of you with religious family: http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/12/2...-the-holidays/ EDIT2: Links were broken __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel Last edited by Jinn; 12-28-2009 at 12:54 PM..