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Zeraph · 12-22-2009, 01:55 PM

Are you sure Kayle can heal? I'm not a kayle player at all, but looking over his abilities I don't see a heal skill. Also I wouldn't consider there to be any pure healers in this game. Soraka the most healerish ya, but she's not a horrible mage either. Her silence is pretty nice (silences for 3.5secs and does a decent amount of damage) and she has one of the best aoes in the game when you consider its cooldown (just under 3secs with only a little CD reduc). Once or twice for fun I've tried playing her offensively, and while I wouldn't recommend it (not nice taking kills from carries, won't work in truly skilled games) I've lead the team in killing blows with her. Taric can be a tank or a melee beast as well as a decent healer in skilled hands.

Anyways, you'd know more about it than I having played the healer champs more. But I have played a dozen games with taric and soraka and I have a much, much easier time keeping my team up with those two than nidalee. If I had to chose basing a team around a good soraka, taric, or nidalee, I'd pick soraka or taric everytime. I <3 nidalee but I am just not seeing the support numbers you are.

vault- glad to see you've found something that works. Keep in mind triforce and lichbane buffs don't stack.

I did some testing with shaco and got mixed results. Somehow I was occasionally getting the same damage whether I was behind something or not. It seems like there might be an occasional bug with his 25% passive. Sheen and triforce I don't think affected it but not sure.

Also, when he uses his ult, does his mirror image receive and apply all the bonuses from passives like bloodrazer? so essentially I get 8% health in magic damage from bloodrazor if my clone is out right?

I tried building shaco with some attack speed and more straight up carry type build and it worked pretty dang well. I just chew through people so much easier. I really thought speed and crit and such would be more of a waste than damage since those stats don't help his deceive skill, but now I'm finding that skill is more useful for position and escape than damage. Still good but his clone seems to be best, then shank, then deceive, then jacks. Wish they'd buff that. Make it so only 1 can be out at a time so they can have more immediate combat usefulness. I love the idea but they just generally suck right now.

12-22-2009, 01:55 PM	#158 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	Are you sure Kayle can heal? I'm not a kayle player at all, but looking over his abilities I don't see a heal skill. Also I wouldn't consider there to be any pure healers in this game. Soraka the most healerish ya, but she's not a horrible mage either. Her silence is pretty nice (silences for 3.5secs and does a decent amount of damage) and she has one of the best aoes in the game when you consider its cooldown (just under 3secs with only a little CD reduc). Once or twice for fun I've tried playing her offensively, and while I wouldn't recommend it (not nice taking kills from carries, won't work in truly skilled games) I've lead the team in killing blows with her. Taric can be a tank or a melee beast as well as a decent healer in skilled hands. Anyways, you'd know more about it than I having played the healer champs more. But I have played a dozen games with taric and soraka and I have a much, much easier time keeping my team up with those two than nidalee. If I had to chose basing a team around a good soraka, taric, or nidalee, I'd pick soraka or taric everytime. I <3 nidalee but I am just not seeing the support numbers you are. vault- glad to see you've found something that works. Keep in mind triforce and lichbane buffs don't stack. I did some testing with shaco and got mixed results. Somehow I was occasionally getting the same damage whether I was behind something or not. It seems like there might be an occasional bug with his 25% passive. Sheen and triforce I don't think affected it but not sure. Also, when he uses his ult, does his mirror image receive and apply all the bonuses from passives like bloodrazer? so essentially I get 8% health in magic damage from bloodrazor if my clone is out right? I tried building shaco with some attack speed and more straight up carry type build and it worked pretty dang well. I just chew through people so much easier. I really thought speed and crit and such would be more of a waste than damage since those stats don't help his deceive skill, but now I'm finding that skill is more useful for position and escape than damage. Still good but his clone seems to be best, then shank, then deceive, then jacks. Wish they'd buff that. Make it so only 1 can be out at a time so they can have more immediate combat usefulness. I love the idea but they just generally suck right now.