I'm not sure where people get that from, but unless it was a horrible move, an experienced player does not necessarily know how the game will conclude after 3 or 4 moves and looking 30 moves ahead is reserved for the best of the best of all time.
In reality, it is this limited amount of moves that makes the game comparable to chess. The reason is, each move becomes much more important, because the regular men can not move backwards. Any mistake made can not be retracted and could become fatal if the position is weak enough. As mentioned by my friend above:
"And unlike in chess, where many weak positions can be salvaged by trickery or counter-play of some sort, weak moves in checkers are generally both permanent (since men can't move backwards) and fatal. Sure, there are a select few man-down gambits, but nothing approaching the level in chess."
PS, I am not trying to persuade people to like one game over the other. I fully understand that some people just have different preferences. I have played and studied both games for years and I happen to prefer checkers. I am only trying to argue that one game is not more difficult than the other when it comes to humans playing humans.
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Zeraph, not trying to convince you one way or the other, but if you have never bothered to truly learn the game of checkers and play at a high level, how do you know that you will not enjoy it more? There are a lot of misinformed assumptions being made in this thread and my goal in these discussions is to inform. There is so much more than meets the eye. Also, comparing checkers to tic tac toe is a slap in the face. I solved tic tac toe in like 10 minutes by myself when I was a kid. A person could study checkers his entire life and still not figure out everything.
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I'm no chess master so not positive but I'm pretty sure that isn't true. If both players make *no* mistakes, then the player that went first will win. He always has a slight advantage.
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The catch is that this advantage can not always be converted to a win. After all, King on King is a draw, King + Bishop/Knight on King is also a draw. There is also King + Pawn vs King + Pawn. Assuming perfect play leads to this position, and White's advantage is they get to turn their pawn into a queen first. However, if Black turns their pawn into a queen the very next move (of course assuming neither Queen will be captured immediately), then the game is a draw with perfect play. In each situation, White has a slight advantage, but the game is still a draw.
Obviously it can not be proven at this point in time, as no person or computer has played perfect to this point, but I would lean towards the game being a draw with perfect play.