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Originally Posted by Zeraph
Do we really have to say .40 cal S&W, .45 ACP..? And for .50 there isn't much of a standard, I think S&W makes one, I know there's one specifically for grizzly, I think it has the name in it.
Dude you are so annoying sometimes, no ones toting video game knowledge. I may not know as much about specific guns as you but I grew up a hunter and probably know more about bears and hunting safety. And there's a reason its a backup piece, no one has said to go hunting a bear with a .44 mag.
Yeah, its hard to shoot big hand guns, duh. I'd still rather have a .44 and have a 40% chance to hit than a .22 with a 80% chance to hit. I still don't think a 9mm is going to cut it. Truth be told though that's what we carried as a backup piece on our hunts. Course we also drank beer too, neither was the brightest thing to do...
<- grew up a redneck
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The UberCannon craze perpetuated by S&W, Ruger, Taurus and others is mostly masturbatory. .500 S&Ws on the X-frame are completely ridiculous. It's a rifle without a shoulder stock. Granted, advances in frame designs / materials and cartridge technology have really pumped up hunting handguns in the last 2 decades. Look at .454 Casull, for example. For many, it represents a new standard for big bore hunting revolvers.
Let's assume this is bear country where actual bear-sized bears exist... not the dog-sized critters that run around outside DC. Bears are harder targets than humans... they have stronger skulls and more muscle mass. Nobody in their right mind would use a 9, .40 or .45 to stop a bear. Unless the noise and flash of firing the peashooter scares the bear, you'd be pretty much screwed versus a charging bear even if you score direct hits at "oh shit" pistol range. People have been killed even after delivering mortal wounds to the creature with large bore rifles.
And I don't get your caliber / accuracy percentage thing here. Odds are you'll get one or two shots. This isn't a firearm capacity string, it's point and squeeze. Accuracy is accuracy. This isn't relative to any other weapon. It's been my experience that the first shot out of a H&K USP .45 is just as accurate as the first shot out of a Walther P22... the operator is the weakness, not the gun. A .22 may prove to be more accurate of the course of 50 rounds, but the UberCannon should be just as accurate with the first two shots. We wouldn't spend $1800 on a BFR if it couldn't hit worth a shit, right?
The best backup piece on a hunt is your buddy's rifle, not a handgun. A .44 Magnum is a good compromise if you choose a handgun.
I don't think this has anything to do with your qualifications as a modern day slayer of animals and/or consumer of alcohol and tobacco products.
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Odds are you can scare the bear off with bright colors, making big arms, screaming, a whistle, bear spray, etc.
And for those who miss the obvious: Don't fuck with bear-tots.