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Originally Posted by canuckguy
The one thing your all forgetting is most of your teams are owned by billionaires who don't give a fuck if the team wins, only care about the profits.
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The owners are billionaires because they don't waste money. Let's say you own the Jays. Now, you can open your own personal wallet and throw millions to buy a team. First, you find you have to offer more to players than NY or Boston because of endorsements and other monies that they would make in those cities. Secondly, you have to convert to US Dollars so that's more.
Let's say you do that. You don't care how much it costs. So you spend $150 Million. Your team only brings in $100 million even though you sold out every game and won the World Series. So, you personally lose $50 million. Do that for a few years and watch what happens. Now, you could be like Guizenga (spelling) who owned the Marlins and bought the WS in '97. Win and get the F out before the team falls apart or you can continue to try to win but every year lose $50 million and if those players don't perform and have a bad year or the fans can't afford tickets and the stadium doesn't fill... you lose even more.
So how many years are you willing to lose $50 million of your own money? And if you win and sell everyone off... well look at Miami, again Guizenga did that and Florida has never recovered those lost fans and can't field a competitive team.
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Usually the difference between a successful team and a franchise in ruin is who owns the team. For example the toronto maple leafs in hockey are owned by a corporation who knows that no matter what product they put out there the building will sell out. No chance of winning until you have someone who owns the team and cares. Sure the stars can align and you can get lucky like Rays did a couple of years ago.
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Your example here is that it's now who runs the teams. How good are the GM's, the scouts, etc. Some owners will take advantage of the cap and still field horrendous teams so they can make more profit (not wise because it won't last long), or they just have bad people running the team. It's not quite like baseball where they can go out and spend and get anyone they want.
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I know Mark Cuban is a businessman first and fan second but i bet if you asked him if he could earn 50 million profit this year with his mavericks or only 1 million and win a championship he would take the title in a heart beat.
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First, the NBA has a sal cap so Cuban knows the most he can possibly lose in any given year. Secondly, if Cuban owned the Rangers or Astros, I can almost guarantee if he personally lost even $10 million his first year in ownership and saw that even if he went out and bought better players he'd lose that and possibly more he'd sell in a heartbeat. Owners do not own to lose money.... even billionaires.
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Face the facts, more of the owners don't care if the team wins. Sure some do care and are willing to invest in the teams. The money is there for teams to invest in revenue sharing but most just pocket it. I believe there are penalties if they don't use the money on baseball operations though.
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Yes, in every sport there are owners that use the system, to make as much as they can and don't care what kind of team they field. Those owners usually end up with franchises worth much less than they bought them for and those are just fools who are not good business people.
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I wish the fucktards that own my jays would put more money into the team but they don't care. That makes me hate the them, but i am jealous that the yanks are willing to spend the cash. In the 90's the jays has the highest payroll in baseball, why can't they do that now for example.
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In the 90's times were different. Players weren't as expensive as they are now and teams like the Indians were tapping new income sources (stadiums, ads, cable contracts, etc) Those new sources aren't there. 10-20 years ago very very few players made or commanded $10 million. Now that's a price that is becoming a norm. Yet, teams revenues aren't going up. Salaries go up, income reaches it's plateau..... thus, you can't keep up.