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Old 12-11-2009, 04:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
pai mei
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We're talking about whatever we want. I myself am writing whatever I want - you do the same. Everything is connected. Cannot limit the discussion. How can you talk about a part of the Universe - and disconnect if from everything else, like nothing has influence on it. If we do that - it's simple : houses have a price, people have no money, end, go back to sleep, no discussion needed.


Explain this :
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"The Pawnee : they were a well-disciplined people, maintaining public order under many trying circumstances. And yet they had none of the power mechanisms that we consider essential to a well-ordered life. No orders were ever issued...Time after time I tried to find a case of orders given and there were none. Gradually I began to realize that democracy is a very personal thing which like charity, begins at home. Basically it means not being coerced and having no need to coerce anyone else. The Pawnee learned this way of living in the earliest beginning of his life. In the detailed events of every day as a child, he began his development as a disciplined and free man or as a women who felt her dignity and her independence to be inviolate"

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"The Creeks are just honest, liberal and hospitable to strangers; considerate, loving and affectionate to their wives and relations; fond of their children; industrious, frugal, temperate and persevering; charitable and forbearing. I have been weeks and months among them and in their towns, and never observed the least sign of contention or wrangling: never saw an instance of and Indian beating his wife, or even reproving her in anger. In this case they stand as examples of reproof to the most civilized nations . . . for indeed their wives merit their esteem and the most gentle treatment, they being industrious, frugal, loving and affectionate . . .Their internal police and family economy. . .incontrovertibly place those people in an illustrious point of view: their liberality, intimacy and friendly intercourse with one another, without any restraint of ceremonious formality; as if they were even insensible of the use of necessity of associating the passions of affections of avarice, ambition or covetousness. . . How are we to account for their excellent policy in civil government; it cannot derive its influence from coercive laws, for they have no such artificial system."
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You don't need super humans - to form that society. You need free people. They seek community and freedom, the tribe maintains itself. They are not crazy to build stuff, then leave it empty - because they have some numbers written somewhere, and the numbers are not big enough. Must make them big ! Destroy more, buy more !
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