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Shauk · 12-09-2009, 03:56 PM

I think the difference between us is some of you are asking for things that have no bearing on character development or efficient use of time, in fact, quite the opposite, you're requesting features that would increase the amount of time you spend not gainfully playing your character. Stuck on a ship, or on a journey somewhere.

there is a balance when it comes to strategy. If it's stupid enough that you can brute your way through it without knowing the encounter, it's not going to be fun or hold my attention. If it takes a while to co-ordinate the execution, it's going to be much more meaningful to everyone who downs it.

the thing is, you want your groups to be equally skilled.

After you're past the "experience" of downing that boss, you're now expected to be able to repeat that performance. You and your peers have proven to eachother that you have what it takes to work together to overcome that strategy.

Dont kid yourself, not everything in this game is reduced to boss killer websites, even with those sites up there, there are many guilds who still have not completed Ulduar, or ToC, even after reading or watching the video, simply because they play with less skilled/nongamer oriented individuals.

I was in the 3rd most advanced guild on our server (which as of the end of the 3.2 cycle was #3rd most progressed realm in the US) so I'm rather familiar with progression raids and mindsets. (everything is in a scramble right now since apparently damn near all the raiding guilds have cleared the 4 bosses up on the 1st day.)

Back to the original subject, I don't think wow will be dethroned by any upcoming MMO's on the horizon at the moment. The only MMO franchise that stood a chance to get ME was the Fallout franchise and that's so mired in legal bullshit and conflict that it'll likely never make it past the concept art stage.

They've already said, whoever cannibalizes the WoW playerbase, isn't going to do it by imitating WoW.

That said, I'm pretty tired of MMO's I play through the dungeons a few times and get some average gear and then I usually kick off for a few months and wait for the next thing to interest me. I pretty much had my pickings in ulduar and didn't feel like fussing with the ToC patch, My gear is fine for ICC apparently since I geared my character well.

12-09-2009, 03:56 PM	#61 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	I think the difference between us is some of you are asking for things that have no bearing on character development or efficient use of time, in fact, quite the opposite, you're requesting features that would increase the amount of time you spend not gainfully playing your character. Stuck on a ship, or on a journey somewhere. there is a balance when it comes to strategy. If it's stupid enough that you can brute your way through it without knowing the encounter, it's not going to be fun or hold my attention. If it takes a while to co-ordinate the execution, it's going to be much more meaningful to everyone who downs it. the thing is, you want your groups to be equally skilled. After you're past the "experience" of downing that boss, you're now expected to be able to repeat that performance. You and your peers have proven to eachother that you have what it takes to work together to overcome that strategy. Dont kid yourself, not everything in this game is reduced to boss killer websites, even with those sites up there, there are many guilds who still have not completed Ulduar, or ToC, even after reading or watching the video, simply because they play with less skilled/nongamer oriented individuals. I was in the 3rd most advanced guild on our server (which as of the end of the 3.2 cycle was #3rd most progressed realm in the US) so I'm rather familiar with progression raids and mindsets. (everything is in a scramble right now since apparently damn near all the raiding guilds have cleared the 4 bosses up on the 1st day.) Back to the original subject, I don't think wow will be dethroned by any upcoming MMO's on the horizon at the moment. The only MMO franchise that stood a chance to get ME was the Fallout franchise and that's so mired in legal bullshit and conflict that it'll likely never make it past the concept art stage. They've already said, whoever cannibalizes the WoW playerbase, isn't going to do it by imitating WoW. That said, I'm pretty tired of MMO's I play through the dungeons a few times and get some average gear and then I usually kick off for a few months and wait for the next thing to interest me. I pretty much had my pickings in ulduar and didn't feel like fussing with the ToC patch, My gear is fine for ICC apparently since I geared my character well.