Recently I tried searching for an account of civilian deaths during
the 1990-91 gulf war. The numbers still seem to vary widely.
I haven't heard much lately about the recent Israel/Gaza atrocities.
roachboy's thread concerning this, was very informative,
and he kept sight of the true losses; not only the loss of human lives,
but also the suffering and anguish of those injured, displaced..etc.
& the suffering continues:
A recent article in the Guardian.
Huge rise in birth defects in Falluja | World news | The Guardian
I despise the term
collateral damage, & all the other terms the US military
invented to cleanse and manipulate.