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Old 11-30-2009, 03:12 PM   #744 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by ratbastid View Post
Huh. So even his conviction to finish the job doesn't earn him any points from you?
I understand the difficulty in understanding my point, it is kind of subtle and my ability to put it in words is limited. As an example, I played football, football is a team sport, if my Q-back made the comment " I am going to win this game", rather than "we are going to win this game", I would conclude the guy was not a team player and was in it for personal glory. That is not a way to motivate your team mates. Or if the Q-back made the inference that the previous Q-back screwed up and that - "I am going to finish this", I would again assume he was not a team player. I would rather he say something like - "o.k. guys let's get this game finished so we can go home with a win"

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I thought a president got a pass from you on anything they did as long as they had convictions and stood by them?
"pass" is not the correct word. there are always consequences for actions, in the short-term even doing what is right may have negative consequences. I simply have respect for those who stand firm in the face of conflicting pressures when they make a choice based on their honest beliefs.

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Now suddenly being a uniter is an important value in a president? Was it an important value during the Bush years?
I was united with Bush and his goals I felt his goals were our goals given his clarity, two election victories, Congressional and international support. I was willing to sacrifice and support his vision. I will do the same for Obama if he wants my support, does he?

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Originally Posted by Tully Mars View Post
No, I would have a problem with you being POTUS because I disagree with most of your ideas.
I don't support troop increases in Afghanistan and I think we should leave the country because it is an unwinable situation. do you agree or disagree?

I support single payer health-care for every child in this country. Do you agree or disagree?

I support a person freedom to partake in the "drug" of their choice. Do you agree or disagree?

I support balancing our federal budget. Do you agree or disagree?

I bet if you seperated your distaste of my personality or my writing style, you may actually agree with me on more than you would be willing to admit.

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And not that it's really any of your concern I was married to the same person for a little over 25yrs.
Congratulations, I am at 15 years - seems like yesterday.
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