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Old 11-29-2009, 08:35 AM   #152 (permalink)
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Evolution offers - for example - absolutely no explanation of the soul. It is not a complete theory of humankind at all.
It is not claimed to be a philosophical or theological theory. It offers an explanation for the biological development of life, and at this point all verified evidence supports the theory. It is entirely open to revision in light of new evidence.
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human beings are not animals. Animals are incapable of feeing.
The most famous example would be Koko the gorilla, who has directly expressed emotion toward humans and others, and raised several pet cats, and mourned them when they died.

You are also at odds with primate experts, who have reached a consensus that nonhuman primates feel emotion and are capable of cognition to a much greater degree than had been assumed until recently.
Mama gorilla mourns her dead baby - Science- msnbc.com
"BERLIN - A gorilla at a zoo in the German city of Muenster is refusing to let go of her dead baby's body several days after it died of unknown causes.

Allwetter Zoo spokeswoman Ilona Zuehlke says the 3-month-old male baby died on Saturday but its 11-year-old mother continues to carry its body around. Zuehlke says such behavior is not uncommon to gorillas."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/17/sc...gewanted=print
"“Fifty years ago, we knew next to nothing about chimpanzees,” said Andrew Whiten, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland. “You could not have predicted the richness and complexity of chimp culture that we know now.”

Jane Goodall, a young English woman working in Africa in the 1960s, began changing perceptions. At first, experts disputed her reports of chimps’ using tools and social behavior. The experts especially objected to her references to chimp culture. Just humans, they insisted, had “culture.”

“Jane suffered early rejection by the establishment,” Richard Wrangham, a Harvard anthropologist, said. “Now, the people who say chimpanzees don’t have emotions and culture are the ones rejected.”

The new consensus framed discussions in March at a symposium, “The Mind of the Chimpanzee,” at the Lincoln Park Zoo here. More than 300 primatologists and other scientists reviewed accumulating knowledge of chimps’ cognitive abilities.

After one session, Frans de Waal of Emory University said that as recently as a decade ago there was still no firm consensus on many of the social relationships of chimps. “You don’t hear any debate now,” he said."


"The emotions of caring and mourning have been observed, as in the case of the chimp mother that carried on her back the corpse of her 2-year-old daughter for days after she had died. After fights between two chimps, scientists said, others in the group were seen consoling the loser and acting as mediators to restore peace.

Devyn Carter of Emory described the sympathetic response to a chimp named Knuckles, who was afflicted with cerebral palsy. No fellow chimp was seen to take advantage of his disability. Even the alpha male gently groomed Knuckles."
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