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Old 11-24-2009, 12:26 AM   #123 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun
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But evolution is not a fact, it is a theory.
You can't get higher than a theory in science. "Laws" as such do not exist. Remember that whole "Theory of Gravity" thing? Based on evidence, just like evolution.

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The true arrogance being displayed is those who state - with straight faces even - that the theory they believe in should be taught and no other rival theory.
Teach religion in religion class, science in science class. It's just that simple. Creationism has no evidence, therefore, there is no reason to believe in it, much less teach it in a classroom.

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I repeat, there are very well thought out and argued theories suggesting that extra terrestial beings have assisted the process of human development. These stories are supported by folk history and mythology. They should be taught alongside the view of the a 6000 year earth, alongside the view that the earth is an accident of chaos.
No there are not. The fictional story of "Stargate", and the character Dr. Daniel Jackson are just that, fictional. Again, no evidence, no reason to believe.

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Evolution as an existing thing is generally agreed upon
Basically what you are saying is that "evolution occurs in small steps". As that is patently obvious. However, why do you not understand that all of those small steps over time add up to evolution on a large scale?

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Evolution as a theory of the development of plant and animal life on earth, unaided by anything else - is a very long way from being accepted.
Maybe to religious persons, but highly educated persons, and countries have a very high acceptance of evolution. Oh, and 99% of the scientific community supports it. Not a very long way away.

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Science itself is dogmatic, error strewn, pitiful... it is one lense through which the world can be viewed and explained, and it is a rather poor one. I have already clearly shown the failure of science to ever see beyond its own paradigm and the limitations of its own knowledge.
Science is pitiful? You have clearly shown nothing. Science constantly overcomes its own limitations. Otherwise our technology would have never progressed. Just as a quick example, there is a 17 mile long atom smashing machine that is attempting to solve the origins of the universe. If that is not expanding our limitations of knowledge, I don't know what is.

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You can give a million examples - from ghost sightings, to the okapi (when African villagers reportered the animal, "science" declated it couldnt exist and must be a myth. What those people had clearly seen was discounted because "science" had not seen it - so by the rules of science the only possible answer is that most Africans are superstitious children who cannot tell the difference between an animal and a myth. The okapi only existed once it was discovered by the western scientists. I can give many examples of the blindness and arrogance of science... I hope that, while are children have an understanding of it, they also shall be taught of its immense weakness.
When you provide evidence, science listens. When you provide research in peer reviewed journals, science listens.

You bash science, and attempt to undermine it. However, I'd love to see you go a day without it. Science has done more to improve the human condition in a single year then religion has ever done. Creationism and those who preach it give nothing to this world, they only hold science back.

You can keep your ghost-sighting, all knowing deity worshiping ideas to yourself. Me and most of the rest of the people on this forum will continue to be logical people that don't believe in a big magic man in the sky.
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