Boy oh boy, you guys have been busy the last couple of days....
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Originally posted by butthead
Note that intentionally killing someone and doing so in cold-blood are different things. Setting in motion a chain of events that accomplish the goal of killing someone doesn't necessarily mean the person must feel no remorse or regret.
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Absolutely, we agree with this. I'm sure this guy will never ever get over this
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Then I suppose there is a discrepancy in some of our core philosophical values, nothing new. Just it seems neither is going to agree with the other.
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That's what's so great about this board. We managed to have a couple of spurious encounters and still managed to keep the discussion viable without resorting to "yeah well you suck" statements.
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And accidentally killing your own child isn't punishment and is impossible to learn from except for being placed in a federal prison? I disagree.
I think being the one responsible for your child's accidental death is beyond consequence for most people
Unless you want to have "make sure to not leave a child in a hot car" the focal point of his life and maximize his suffering, jail probably wouldn't be the best place for him.
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Locking him up; stringing him up; or hanging him from the tallest tree isn't what I'm suggesting. Sequester this guy; teach him; rehabilitate him. I guess I haven't been too clear on that, my fault
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Maybe this is logical to your ideal world, but a world as sadistic as the one you described is something I cannot agree with.
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originally posted by 4thtimelucky
He owes no debt to the justice system. The justice system is just a bureaucratic tool - a "system".
He owes a debt to his family.
He may owe a debt to God or to his lost son, wherever he may be.
At a stretch he may owe a debt to society.
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This guy took a life. He is expected to be punished for such crime. Whether or not the justice system is a bureaucratic tool or not, it's the system that he signed up for by being a citizen of the United States. It's a system, that although I might disagree with at times, that all of society is expected to abide by. We are all equal under the law, or at least that's what they tell us. So if other people get prison time for "accidently" killing someone, why is this guy different? What makes his ineptitude different from the guy who shoots wife while cleaning his gun, or the guy who backs over his neighbor on the way to work? These are the rules that every one of us here have to live by. These are the rules of society that are enforced by our justice system. These are the rules of society that say that crime merits punishment.
This is what I've been arguing over; this has been the focal point of my argument however haphazardly my posts seem.
What makes this guy special? Why is it, even though he killed his son, that the police "likely won't press charges?"