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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
The depressing thing about science is its arrogance, the way it dismisses anything that does not fit into its narrow frame of reference, the way its followers feel able to call anyone who believes in God as a morn.
And again you state that the facts dont exist regarding creation. This is false - yet again the same error.
The fact that something cannot be tested or known by you does not make it false, does not make it not a fact.
You do not know how the universe was created, so you call my view "not factual"
The reality is that it may or may not be a fact and you dont know. The problem with science is you believe you ability to know determines whether something is true or not.
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As far as I can tell, creationism has absolutely no scientific merit. Why would you expect a scientist to do anything other than dismiss it? It isn't an instance of arrogance when a scientist refuses to accept creationism as scientifically valid, it's an instance of a scientist doing his/her job.
I'm not sure why some creationists get all in a tizzy about scientific legitimacy. I'm not even sure why you're all worked up, Strange. They're two different ways of looking at the world. It can't be a matter of wanting mutual understanding and respect; the very methods most creationists use to belittle science show a not only a profound lack of understanding and respect for science, but also an extreme lack of self reflection. I'm fairly certain that most of the general criticisms of science typically offered up in these discussions also apply to religion. Arrogance? Check. Overstated certainty? Check. Inability to acknowledge the validity of competing world views? Check.
I think what really gets creationists is that science is a much more compelling force in which to put blind faith than creationism is. Placing faith in a 6000 year old Earth doesn't help you invent that 46 inch plasma TV.