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Old 11-20-2009, 05:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by dlish View Post
i could go on and do that to the rest of your post, but its not really fun thinking about how the other side percieves your world. i am privvy to both worlds, and its not pretty from whichever way you look at it.
I don't have qualms with how others perceive us. I just believe that they should be allowed to be them and we should be allowed to be us. Unlike some posters who would have you believe that because I speak out against their God Obama, I am some angry white guy who is into military trials, nationalism, protectionism, and more military spending... Because I'm not.

I look at nations like people. Our nation has a right to do whatever it wants within it's borders, as do China, Israel, Iran, North Korea and every other sovereign nation.I believe the best and truly only answer to resolve conflict between countries and cultures is to teach each other those cultures and treat each other with respect. You don't have to like their domestic policies, their trade laws etc. but we have to share the planet with each other and thus we need to understand and respect the others. End of discussion.

However, should one country try to push it's beliefs on another, invade another, train terrorists or support terrorists and so on, then something should be done. I believe this about our own country, as well. I am no fan of things we have done in the past or continue to do with regards to other sovereign nations. It is up to those people in that country to do something to exact change in their country... either through voting, seeking outside help, being able to petition the UN and have something truly done, etc.

If I'm North Korea, Israel, Iran, etc and I threaten to destroy another country or train/support/hide terrorists, I should expect that other country to take arms and defend themselves against me at any cost. Hopefully, that defense can be done diplomatically first.

In short, I believe every country should take pride in their culture and history and if they can't they should change it. That's the great thing about this country, that some on the extreme left (and they are losing massive support from moderates) fail to understand, we have changed, we have gotten better. Are we perfect? No, but change comes slowly and with fights to make sure that in the end the changes made better the country as a whole. Those extremists would rather they have their way NOW and fuck anyone who disagrees with them.
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
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