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Originally Posted by dc_dux
When we let horrific events like 9/11 cloud our judgement and act on emotion...or let our elected leaders play on that emotiion....we lose our freedoms.
The Constitution is not a document of convenience to enable us to look for the easy way or emotionally satisfying way or more politically expedient way out.
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Ummm... much as I'm in disagreement with Pan's OP... have you even LOOKED at what's gone on since 9/11?? They won. It's as simple as that. They exported their paranoid, over-policed, suspicion-filled lifestyle to the West, just as they planned. Americans (and much of the rest of the western world) have freely given up rights and constitutional guarantees in the mistaken assumption they are now safer.
Not a single 9/11 terrorist came across the US-Canada border. Ever. Now, with the North American Travel Initiative, citizens of what was once one of the most open borders in the world have to display passports, are delayed for checks for contraband/weapons, and yet accept this, despite the multi-billion dollar cost in lost productivity (btw, I would actually be for this if the Canadian customs agents were as diligent... Canada is in much greater danger from stuff coming in from the US than vice versa).
You have to take off your shoes to get on a plane. You may be refused passage without explanation. Habeas Corpus is suspended without review. Hell, you can be charged, and the judge may not be allowed to see what evidence they have against you, or you may be charged, but never told what the charge is!!
How can you not think they've already won, precisely because we have allowed our emotions to not just cloud, but blind our judgement?