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Old 11-10-2009, 01:15 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
The Obama thing is probably better for the Bush 3rd term thread, but what would you say were the main functional differences between McCain's platform and the policies of the Bush2 Administration?
Just going on memory. Interrogation, Gitmo, Iraq War (strategy), deficits, original TARP, Social Security reform, diplomacy (engaging other nations), transparency, more support of military after they return, Katrina response, to name a few.

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It probably wasn't popular for calling Falwell and Robertson "agents of intolerance". That was not a populist move, but seemed to stem from McCain's (former?) character. Similarly, McCain refused to speak at Bob Jones U because of their ban on interracial dating. People, myself included, perked up when we heard about the Republican that was moderate on social issues. Holy shit, we thought, a social moderate and fiscal conservative? Those don't come along very often. Around comes 2008 and he's back to race-baiting in a massive way along with his pal Palin.
My recollection was that McCain went out of his way to down play the race issue in the campaign. I recall Democrats in their primaries having a bigger problem on the question of race than McCain. I don't recall Palin making an issue of race, I do recall her making an of Obama's "pals".

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McCain is right wing. Sarah Palin is the populist far right. If McCain wanted to govern more than he wanted to win, he would have chosen someone capable of doing the job if something happened to him, like Gingrich (not that I can stand Gingrich, but at least he's got a lot of experience under his belt and he's got a lot of support not just in the base, but among moderates).
Is the problem with McCain boiling down to him picking Palin as a running mate?

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Do you mean mayor of Wasilla or governor of a state that has less people than Baltimore?
Not sure I see the point there, but she has a record as an elected official.

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Her record (charging for rape kits, covering up family scandals, coercion, incompetence, and corruption) all fit perfectly with my description, in fact I was being generous.
None of those things are national "right wing" platform issues, she was not found guilty of charges of cover up or coercion. In terms of competence, Alaska did not suffer under her leadership, by most objective measures Alaska was doing well compared to other states. It is ironic that my post regarding McCain, a moderate, in my view and the party's chosen nominee (not hand picked like Palin was), turns mostly to a discussion about Palin. Palin, just like Rush, Beck, Hannity, etc., are not going to be the party's nominee in 2012, so again it begs the question, what is all the concern about?


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You're a solid 5 overall.
Until we start talking national defense and capitalism.
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