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Old 11-09-2009, 02:01 PM   #38 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by silent_jay View Post
I always enjoy when people say 'as the founders intended', like they were around back in the day so they know what they 'intended', you weren't around then so to say that is 'what they intended' is well to be blunt bullshit.
This is a common stand for people that need to have the constitution interpreted as a 'living' document. It's necessary so they can use the force of government to mandate their own personal view of america, with the courts tyrannical position that is.
In reality, it's very easy to know what the founders intended, for those with the intellectual honesty and integrity to actually READ the debate papers, federalist papers, and anti-federalist papers. It also helps to read essays from constitutional scholars that were produced in the 10-20 years AFTER the ratification. I know that's too hard for some people to do because that would put an end to their agenda, but that's just how it is.


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Originally Posted by silent_jay View Post
Also the charlton heston cold dead hands thing, and resist by any means necessary is quite laughable, and well a whole lot of talk and no action what so ever, other than message board rantings.
k, whatever.

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While I'm sympathetic to your situation, this statement is rediculous. You aren't going to purchase insurance, nor are you going to pay the tax associated with not purchasing insurance? And how will that in any way help your situation? Having principles is all well and good until they directly harm your family and loved ones. Are you really going to punish your wife because you don't believe in this legislation?
My wife stands solidly behind my principles, so she is not being punished. I'm sure lots and lots of progressives are going to call myself and those who think like me ridiculous, or other less polite names, and that's fine. At some point, the progressives are either going to consider my death or imprisonment 'necessary' in order to continue their totalitarian agenda or they will have to reconsider what they are doing when enough of us are killed in the process of their enforcement. Either way, I stood by my principles while you live with my blood on your hands.
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