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Old 11-09-2009, 08:19 AM   #28 (permalink)
rahl
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Originally Posted by aceventura3 View Post
Question: How long does it take for people to figure out how to exploit the loop holes in the bill? A loop hole that can affect the intent of the bill and alter the assumptions used for costs and coverage.

Answer: Less time than it takes to change a light bulb.

Just for kicks: Let's say we have a Cement contractor (small business), and the guy has about $2,000,000 per year in revenue. He nets about (being generous 25%) $500,000 of personal income and he is single. He runs a payroll of $500,000. He does not offer his employees health insurance and would be subject to the 8% "surcharge"/tax or whatever it is. That amounts to $40,000, right off of his bottom line of $500,000, effectively a tax of 8% of his income.

I am an entrepreneur. I go to him and say; let me set up two employee leasing companies for you. Half your payroll in company A and half in company B and then I lease your employees to you, with a 4% admin charge for me. So I have two companies with a payroll of $250,00 and I lease them to you for $260,000. Oh, and we don't need to offer health insurance or pay the 8% (let them go on the public plan). He saves $20,000 and I make $20,000. He has a 4% advantage over his similarly situated competition who do not do this ( and of course I go to his competition and do the same thing), and the government doesn't get anything, and the employees go on the public plan.

Oh, how I love capitalism, especially when the foolish or short-sighted run Washington.

P.S. - this is not actually a new concept, PEO's took off big time in the California market when Work comp premiums were going through the roof. But this would be a new application.
Why would you not have to offer them Insurance? And why would he hire you if all he has to do is put them on the puclic plan himself?
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