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Originally Posted by Cimarron29414
Cap and trade has been voted on in the House.
I used the phrase "deficit neutral" instead of "fully funded". Any bill should be both, and this bill is neither. Again, it's somebody else's money so who cares, right?
You take the lowest possible number which can be found in support cap and trade and minimize its expense to the consumer. I take a higher number (not even the highest I have seen) to show why it will hurt Americans and an economic recovery. Yet somehow, in your mind what I am doing is worse than what you are doing.
dippin, you can not read that cap and trade bill and conclude that the actual cost to you, dippin, is going to be $175 per year. If you want to talk about honesty and bullshit, start by being honest with yourself.
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I am sorry, but this is hopeless. The whole point of the bill is that it is not deficit neutral. And the "fully funded" part is incredibly puzzling to me, since this is a bill that is not about government spending, but about government revenue. I think you don't really understand these concepts.
And I am not taking the lowest possible number, as I am not basing anything I said on that memo. I am simply saying that every single figure you've quoted so far is a lie that has no basis on anything. The 20% tax increase, the 15% tax increase.
As far as me concluding what the cost of cap and trade for me will be, so far the only reliable figure Ive seen is the projection from the non-partisan CBO projection. And so far no one has given me a good reason not to trust that.
So if you want to keep talking about honesty, why don't you back it up with something?
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Great job on the edit.
Suck it? Is that really your tone from now on?
The house passed the bill, that now has to go to the senate and then back to the house before it is really approved by congress (and it is modified by both houses, so unless that memo was written by someone who is clairvoyant). You know, that bicameral institution that includes both the house and the senate?
I am done with you. Your dishonesty knows no bounds. I am sure mods will soon take action here, but on my part I give up.