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Originally Posted by dippin
It is not nitpicking. It is pointing out the dishonesty of choosing the high range of a possible number mentioned in a memo without any backing from 9 months ago over the actual report from the CBO that addresses this issue.
And it seems like you have absolutely no idea how the cap and trade works. The government will not be collecting anything directly from the tax payer. It will sell carbon permits to companies. How much of that the company will pass on to the consumer is up to the companies. And since this companies trade on the global market, at least part of them live outside the US. So it has nothing to do with tariffs.
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Bullshit. The memo addresses the bill which congress voted on. If they are saying the bill is deficit neutral, then they HAVE to get the $200B from somewhere, so it's fair game to use it in my example.
I know exactly how cap and trade works. You imply that a company will absorb the costs out of the goodness of their hearts and not pass it on to their customers as a way to ridiculously counter that this bill isn't going to mean significantly less money in MY pocket. Who are these mythical people that will pay it, if not us? When coal electric plants pay 90% more taxes, you think they are just going to eat that price as the "cost of doing business"? When they build the nuclear plant to replace the coal plant, do you think it's going to be paid for through the American exports to the Chinese or French consumer? Ridiculous.
I know you are not naive, so one can only assume you are deliberately being dishonest in your support of the bill. Spend, spend, spend. It's always someone else's money.
Tying this all back up, my original assertion was that people would vote for a governor who was going to give them some of their state taxes back, since they believe they are going to pay (in my opinion) the equivalent of 20% more to the feds soon enough. Whether I pay my electric company so they can pay the feds doesn't change the fact that I paid it to the feds. I still have $175 to $1761 less dollars in my pocket and we are absolutely no closer to solving this global warming hoax than we were before they made it up in order to grow government and control the people.