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Old 11-05-2009, 08:10 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dippin View Post
Having to argue with people's feelings and what they think are their recollections can be tiring.

Here's the info you are looking for:

Cap And Trade Will Cost Households Just $175 Annually



And here's the info on taxes:

Historical Source of Revenue as Share of GDP

One year increases in spending are nothing compared to tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts in the long run.

Alright Derwood and dippin, here it is:

http://www.openmarket.org/wp-content...2009-09-11.PDF

This is from the Department of the Treasury. In the overview, the administration says federal tax receipts from the program will generate $100 to $200 Billion annual revenue. Divided among TAX PAYERS, that is $1761 / per year - which is the equivalent of an average 15% increase in federal income taxes.

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I'm talking about the bigger picture. Those things you buy with the money in your pocket...the factors that go into their production have far-reaching implications. It's not about balancing personal budgets; it's about how Americans have had it good in terms of globalization. This whole cap & trade is just one of many factors. The American way of life will only get more expensive and out of reach as time goes on.
I am framing this response specifically to production/consumption of consumer goods, since that is what you brought up. As I see it, there is a problem with your assertion: because Americans are considered the end user or consumer of these goods - the environmentalists consider us the sole criminal in the pollution of the Mother. This is incredibly unfair. For 50 years, we have gotten a huge percentage of our goods from other nations. Those nations "could have" produced those products in an environmentally friendly method. To say that those who demand the goods are the reason for the environmental damage as opposed to those who actually produced those goods is unjust. I say this in response to the fact that many of these measures used to punish America for its way of life does not apply to those other countries who were, at very least, complicit in the pollution.
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