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Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages
It's mind bending to me that you can't see the religion argument is an apple when we're trying to discuss oranges. Religion isn't pushed onto children by schools because it is something fundamental to the core of most familial institutions, and schools have no business being in something that deep and complicated.
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Interesting. What I am suggesting is that there is a line that exists between things that are appropriate and inappropriate for schools to participate it. It seems like you agree here. Analogy worked. It sounds like you are suggesting that the line is drawn at "deep and complicated". My comparison is intentionally extreme. My point is quite simple. In a public school situation, appropriate vs. inappropriate is a binary system. Everything exists on one side or the other. My argument is that McD's is on a different side than, apparently, many people feel, which honestly comes as a surprise.
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Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages
McDonald's is not deep and complicated. I'd wager at least 50-60% of the children at your child's school already eat at McDonald's at an unhealthy rate.
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I'd wager that greater than those percentages already practice religion, and I'd even give you odds, but the argument that "everybody is already doing it" is unimportant; the question is what defines appropriate, not how many people are already ok with it.
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Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages
When most people are eating at McDonald's anyway, it seems to me that the school's making a good deal in getting some of that money coming their way. Of course McDonald's is doing it for profit, but at least they're sharing that profit.
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When most people are practicing religion anyway...
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Originally Posted by Herk
They aren't eating there anyway. If they were McD's would just donate the money, but that wouldn't earn them extra cash, so they need the kids to come home and ask to go to McD's.
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Originally Posted by Charlatan
That said, I also see a difference between the PTA raising money and the school raising money.
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I'm sure that you are correct here. This is the primary reason I am joining the PTA. Surely not to raise hell. My daughter's interest is at hand. I want to understand how this system works and what service it provides.
amonkie, that's great. I like the local restaurant idea, I think, but I admit I still don't understand how to draw the line. I know fundraising is a pain. I have been on the other side, I am more pleased with adults giving additional effort than exploiting children to save them the effort.
I make the generalization to boil the issue down, not inflame it intentionally. My aim is to make the point that there is no need to discuss whether or not things can be appropriate or not, but how to determine which is which. Whether or not it generates funds is not the only thing to take into account. There is an overall risk/benefit ratio that needs to be taken into account. In my opinion, in the McDonald's situation, the risk substantially outweighs the $422.