View Single Post
Old 11-03-2009, 04:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
Rekna
Junkie
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cimarron29414 View Post
All valid points.

I believe one has a moral obligation in America to keep up with who you are voting for and why. Yes, it is illegal to qualify voters through testing. However, every election, some dumbass pulls the handle and cancels out your well-informed vote. Don't know how to fix it, I just think it sucks. I don't mind someone like you, dippin, dc_dux, or roachboy canceling me out, because at least I know that it's a well informed vote (all assuming we would vote opposite on the issue, of course.) It's the dumbass that bugs me.

As for the voter registration influence issue, it's a weak argument - I know. I just have this vision of the "hey, I'll give you a pack of smokes to go pull the handle. What's that you say, you're not registered? No problem, sign here please."

It would have been interesting to see if you could have voted in your old district, seeing as how your license was in your new address. Where I live, you can bring your license only and they can "look you up." While waiting in line and watching, it seems most people vote that way rather than the registration card.
Utah never sent me an updated license so it has my old address (though the DMV has my correct address). Also according to Utah law your license does not need to match your voting address as long as you live at the address you are voting at (probably because they don't send you an updated license or a sticker to put on your old one with your new address).

---------- Post added at 12:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:25 AM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by spindles View Post
The issue I can see with this one is that your actual vote would be tied to your registration. In a secret ballot (which most democratic elections are), this opens up a can of worms in relation to the privacy of the vote.
They have already addressed these issues with absentee voting. Basically your vote goes in a sealed envelope which is then placed inside another envelope containing your registration information. Once your registration is verified your sealed ballot goes into a pile of other uncounted sealed ballots, which are then all opened together.

---------- Post added at 12:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:27 AM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceventura3 View Post
I don't even know how it is Constitutional for a person over 18 to be denied the right to vote registered or not.





LII: Constitution

I think if a person can prove citizenship and residency (based on electoral districts), they should be able to vote, period.
Actually those two amendments say that a person cannot be denied a vote because of their age, or because of their race, etc. There actually doesn't seem to be an explicit constitutional right to vote, at least I tried to find that information earlier but I could not.

---------- Post added at 12:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:29 AM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
In Canada, we have same-day registration.

Also, if you have a change of address, you can still vote with a valid piece of ID.

Either way, I think registration is important to avoid voter fraud.
Has there been any documented increase in fraud due to same day registration?



Also in regards to earlier claims of uninformed voters, it would seem to be statistically uniformed voters are likely to vote evenly across all issues (minus biases due to candidate names and ballot placement).
Rekna is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360