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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
I'm not typically one to suggest someone move, but saying our country is damned seems to indicate a pretty strong opinion that it is beyond hope. I trust you're already planning on moving to some other free market utopia since you have no faith in your own country, right? As concerned as I may get at times, I've certainly never thought, let alone been tempted to type, that our country is damned. Yet progressives are the ones accused of not being patriotic enough.  |
there is no free place to really move to. I fully expect to end up dead because of our escalating doom. and for the record, i've never accused someone of being unpatriotic unless it's been someone who intentionally disdains the constitution.
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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
The SCOTUS is fallible, indeed, but I've never understood the way some people worship a 200+ year old document written at the very beginning of the industrial revolution, and expect that it applies perfectly to modern life. Then again, I don't understand a lot of documents that people worship, many of which are much older.
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I'm sure that I don't have to tell you the why's and wherefores of the creation of the constitution, right? with that in mind, why on earth would people disregard history and allow the same abuses to come in to play that prompted our war for independence in the first place?
the ends justifying the means is something alot of 'progressives' on here criticized during the republican years, but why isn't it that way during the democrat years? does ideology truly win out over factual straight reading text?
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Originally Posted by Willravel
They were all the law until they were overturned, but you're ignoring what I said at the end: The New Deal has been an incredible force for good in our country, not some slide into fascism. The SCOTUS has made mistakes in the past, but so far we've seen an unbelievable reduction in things like elderly illness and poverty. Things may not be perfect, but can you imagine the US without programs like Social Security and Medicare? Our country would be damned without them, to use your hyperbolic language.
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yes will, I can imagine our country without those social programs. I can easily envision a nation more prosperous and less in debt. why is that hard to imagine? That 'new deal' threw away parts of the constitution....basically it took parts of your liberty for security, but i forget that you think benjamin franklin is just another dead white haired guy who lived in another time. or am i wrong on that?