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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
This is why I object to it. You're stating that it's degrees of wrong doing. It's already wrong. There's already an intention or unintentional, such as murder versus manslaughter.
But really, no one knows for sure that hate is the motivator, it isn't easily detected 100% of the time. It's easy to pick out from a white to black, straight to gay, but what about El Salvadorian to Mexican, Indian to Pakistani? Can you tell when the offended and the offender are both the same color?
Did you know that most of the time, those are hate crimes too? Iraqi Sunni to Iraqi Shiite and Serbian to Croat, we're accustomed to those in some degree because we are media induced to see them as such. But in our courts will we be fair and even handed to deciding which is and what is a hate crime?
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So are you for removing the distinctions of degrees in all offenses as well? Because the issue of intent in the law goes far beyond intentional and unintentional.
And I fail to see how it not being easily detected 100% of the time leads to the conclusion that it should not exist at all.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
so there you have it... the law already is in place because it recognizes the intent. It's then the DA and the rest of the justice system that needs to recognize this and not reduce the charges at all.
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But it recognizes intent in the form of premeditation and planning. Both which undermine the sentencing of crimes against certain populations. There is a reason why the murderers of black men are sentenced to lesser sentences on average. There is a reason why the rape of a gay man is sentenced to a lesser sentence on average.