Ok so it's been four months...
due to a recent article I decided to change my stance on not posting on this thread anymore to try and solidify my connection between "hip hop culture" and "black culture" when posting a question about "truthful negatives"
I kinda feel like this article does a better job of explaining my point:
BBC NEWS | UK | Has hip-hop grown up?
the line in my OP about "Truthful Negatives" of hip hop culture, wasn't acceptable to many of you, but let me quote the part in the article.
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"Now that tourists visit inner city ghettos and Ivy-league students study street culture, what does Joe Conzo think of hip-hop's evolution?
"There are lots of parts of the culture I don't agree with," he says, citing lyrics and videos that promote violence and degrade women. "
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a 47 year old "resident" and self proclaimed representation of hip hop says this. Not some white dude named Shauk on some internet forum known as TFP.
ok so I know he can't be the only one who disagrees with it, I mean I don't like it either, I guess the question is if people recognize it reflects poorly on hip-hop, and by association, black culture, why is it an acceptable association by the majority to the point that it's one of the most popular forms of music in the mainstream if it's a false representation?
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
I'm not sure what you expected. You are using a form of music to illustrate what is bad about black culture, even saying this:
"willful deviation from the norm for the sake of being a rebel"
what the fuck is that supposed to mean? Willful deviation from the norm and being rebellious is, what, bad? Tell that to the guys who wrote, 'Smack My Bitch Up.' A song that I happen to enjoy because I realize that art, especially in the form of music, is not usually a mandate for living.
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Copy paste inc
The phrase "Change My Pitch Up / Smack My Bitch Up" is not a lyric, it's a sample, taken from an old hip hop track called "Give The Drummer Some" by Ultramagnetic MCs. The vocalist is Kool Keith, aka Dr .Octagon. "Smack My Bitch Up" is instrumental apart from the use of this phrase.
to give credit where credit is due. *shrug*