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Originally Posted by dippin
Are you referring to the mathematica study? That one was done on request by the federal government, so I doubt they had any hidden agenda to prove the federal government wrong. And if you read the study, the reason they focused on the ages they did was because the abstinence programs they were evaluating target the kids of that age! And these kids were followed for a long time to reach those results.
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I am not suggesting there is a hidden agenda. What I am suggesting is that half-assed attempts at "abstinence only" may get you half assed results, but that doesn't mean that if an appropriate level of effort was put into it that it that you would get half-assed results. I am also suggesting that it is a 12 year-old's logic at work. I live it with my son, I can't count the number of time we go through this and how many times he discovers that if he puts his full effort into something he gets the results expected. I think we can change our culture regarding our attitudes about children having sex.
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I agree the pledges are gimmicks. But they are analyzed because they are used in many abstinence only programs. And the results regarding sexual activity did not differ, but the results regarding condom use did
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I know that if my son was going to have sex and he knew to use a condom, and he encountered any frustration, at 12 he would be quick to say "screw" (pardon the pun) the condom, and have sex without it. As an adult, I would hope, he has a more mature attitude about it.
A survey on condom use, in my opinion, is more a survey on honesty. If they can set up a control for people lying I might buy into these survey results. Teenagers generally do not use condoms, and if certain groups are more honest about it - that is going to appear as if they are taking more risks.
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How in the world did you get this from that particular sentence? That sentence was about an international study that pointed out that results may not be generalizable to the US, and more evaluation was needed. It said nothing about your position of promoting abstinence.
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In his conclusion he includes the phrase "Should funding continue...", more study on the issue is recommended. He separated "abstinence only" and "abstinence- plus". Perhaps, my view is more in-line with "abstinence-plus" whatever that means. but is seems that he leaves the door open.
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Originally Posted by Cimarron29414
What I find most troubling is that 56% of all girls have a penis! Damn that abstinence only class they made me take!
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I have friend - when his wife got pregnant, he went around saying "we are pregnant" referring to him and his wife. I assumed he was an idiot until one day I asked my wife about it. She told me, that is the new thing now. A couple no longer says "I" ( from the woman) or "she" (from the man) is pregnant but that "we" (from both) are pregnant. I don't watch enough day time TV. But I think the "we" used a condom is the new way to say it today. But perhaps some girls didn't get the notification, that could explain the difference.