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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Will, does it really matter?
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I believe it does. As a liberal, I'm not in any kind of position to strike at the heart of what I call the ignorant extremist wing of conservatism. I deal with the ignorant extremist wing of liberalism constantly, but they're never the ones going out and murdering people.
You, samcol, aladdin, ace, kirstang, timal, dunedan, etc., etc. are all conservatives, likely active in the conservative community. Remember when I said that what Reverend Wright said wasn't just wrong, it was incredibly stupid? His race baiting was damaging instead of constructive and had no place in intelligent conversation, let alone a massive church. It was bullshit, and I looked past my own ideological alignment to call it what it was. It's time for conservatives to do the same thing. I don't give a flying fuck if someone thinks Jews control the world banks, if President Obama is a communist, nazi, Kenyan Manchurian candidate, if you think the federal government is building concentration camps for overweight, white, middle class people, if Barack Obama is in the Bible as the antichrist, or if you think abortion is genocide. As soon as you start murdering people, you're fucking wrong. Richard Poplawski isn't a brave freedom fighter, he's a cowardly, paranoid murderer. Scott Roeder wasn't saving the lives of fetuses, he's a madman and a villain. James W. von Brunn isn't saving the world from evil super-Jews, he's a racist old fuck that killed innocent people. Don't you see? This isn't your glorious rebellion against the forces of tyranny, these are losers and paranoids with guns going out and killing innocent people.
And yet, here you are insisting that these are somehow connected in drawing the line in the sand to stop a tyrannical government:
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
what we're really talking about is millions of people trying to draw the one solid line that everyone can agree and say 'this is where it stops'. it's never gonna happen. are there some instances where the perpetrator is an idiot? hell yes. Are there others where the individual just might be totally justified? no doubt in my mind. But that is not a decision that wholly rests in the palms of your hands. It comes down to the individual who contemplates those acts. some of us might think them insane, while others don't. that does not make them any less honorable or reprehensible.
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...I'm sorry but you're wrong. What they're doing isn't honorable, it's dishonorable.
If you want to fight tyranny, get people to stop watching propaganda and read the Constitution. If you want to fight tyranny, run for public office. If you want to fight tyranny, do it from within the system so that a bunch of innocent people don't have to die. This isn't a movie, it's real life.