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Old 09-21-2009, 07:10 PM   #117 (permalink)
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@cellfactor: No need to apologize. It isn't as though you've offended me. I'm simply trying to keep us on track. There are rules in philosophy. You can't try to explain something in terms other than those that everyone accepts. For instance, I may not accept that god is infinitely wise, or I may not know he is, so it's not a good way to try to prove something.
I opened this subject simply because the universe including planets, species, micro organisms and all creations seem to have an unlimited amount in design in them and putting them all together tends to create a very huge or uncountable amount of data to make them. So this would require a very huge or infinite processing power. This means infinite wisdom. That can only be explained by God. Now you may believe in God or not that is your choice but I think the subject is relevant to infinity.

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A two dimensional plane does not have a height. You can theoretically position them (theoretically, read: academically) in 3-space such that the origin of each will have a z-coordinate, but they still won't have a height, so you could not stack them

If you're talking about an infinite amount of pieces of paper or something that is like a 2d plane but has the height of an angstrom, then the height of the stack is infinite..
Angstrom is a distance that goes to zero meaning it will always decrease even if you want to imagine something smaller than it, there will be something smaller. That's what I mean going to, meaning an a number that is infinitely small.

The mathematical line has zero thickness not angstrom thickness however when we talk about reality there is no such thing as zero thickness. No matter how small even if it is smaller than a quark it will have a thickness. Now volume, matter, and time are reality hence their equations are those created by variables that have their extra dimension not being zero hence its the closest number to zero. the closest number to zero is angstrom hence angstrom applies to dimensions in reality.

Imagine it like this. I want to draw two dots A and B on a line. Dot A and Dot B are each on certain centimeters from Zero point.
Dot width: 0.000000000000001cm
Dot A pos: 0.000000000000001cm from Zero
Dot B pos: 0.000000000000001cm from Zero
they will still be on the same spot so i want to make them on different spots
Dot width: 0.00000000000000000000000000000001cm
Dot A pos: 0.00000000000000000000000000000001cm from Zero
Dot B pos: 0.00000000000000000000000000000001cm from Zero
Still on the same spot so:
Dot width: 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001cm
Dot A pos: 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001cm from Zero
Dot B pos: 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001cm from Zero
ok so I do like this
Dot width: 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001cm
Dot A pos: 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001cm from Zero
Dot B pos: 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002cm from Zero
Now they are not on the same spot but
they're: 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001cm from each other

So what it means if you have to have 2 points that are distinct from each other and you want to line them up near each other in physical space then the 2 points have to not lie on top of each other. meaning the points should be angstrom apart from each other. this means the closest space between 2 points is angstrom. now if we put an infinite number of angstroms near each other they will get you a certain value as defined earlier. If you have time perhaps you can ask a math teacher about it.

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I don't know what you mean by "going to". I assume you mean "approaching", as in limits, which is also a theoretical concept, and not something observable.

I also don't understand what your equation is trying to show. Of course if you pick three things, set two of them to be inverses, and multiply them, you'll be left with the third. It doesn't seem to show anything at all.
thats how its done in mathematics in formulas taught at schools and universities
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