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Originally Posted by ottopilot
For that matter, which MSNBC, Air America (etc....) personality should we blame for the terrorist actions of ELF and the guy who just recently gunned down an anti-abortion protester in front of a school?
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ELF should be held responsible for all the lives they've claimed.... err I mean the property they've destroyed. Regarding the "anti-abortion protester", turns out that wasn't actually the case. The gunman, Harlan Drake, had a grudge against the second victim (who wasn't a pro-life protester) and the protester just got caught in the gunfire.
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Originally Posted by ottopilot
You're going to find crazies in any demography. Was anything extreme ever said or done regarding Bush? I bet you could find some pretty disturbing commentary regarding our last president right here in the archives of TFP. Let's try maintaining some perspective before demonizing a group of people that most (here) seem to know little about, and seem all too eager to jump on the "lets label them as terrorists" band-wagon.
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It's funny how that commentary didn't really include common and overt death threats. And it's funny that we never saw pro-life folks getting gunned down in church or nazi museums being shot up.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
domestic terrorists? does that include me?
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I'm not aware of you making specific death threats, spreading the hateful propaganda of Glenn Beck, or murdering people. In fact, I'd say that the only time that you'd ever open fire on someone is if they were clearly trying to kill you. You're a libertarian, and you're a part of gun culture, but you're not one of these teabaggers. You're probably like the other conservatives I know that were excited about the tea party movement at first, but as soon as you realized that it was being organized by Fox News and most of the people attending were morons, you decided that it was a good idea gone very, very bad.
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seriously folks, what is it that you refuse to see about these groups of people? sure, some of them are out there just for the partisanship, but a larger portion of these folks are angry and tired about not being represented. These are folks who aren't left or right, but somewhere in there and their views and concerns are being totally ignored.
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They are being represented. They all have congressional and senate representation, and they all had the opportunity to vote in the last presidential election. That's governmental representation.
Anyway, you hear what they're saying in the video. And don't pretend that's just the fringe of the movement. Can you blame people for ignoring them? They think the Czars have executive power, for christ's sake. That's intentional ignorance.