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SecretMethod70 · 09-11-2009, 02:22 PM

Freud was not a biologist. The idea that we're so exceptional as to be the only species with any moral direction is laughable. Freud was important in a lot of ways, but I wouldn't look to him as a singular authority any more than I'd say the study of evolution stops at Darwin. Freud's ideas were very clearly influenced by his own neuroses. Furthermore, you say people can choose to follow their superego, but Freud's whole point is that there is an internal battle between the id and the superego, and neither reigns supreme. We are more than just consciousness trapped in bodies.

That's not to say I think people are inherently bad. I don't think people are inherently anything. We are highly evolved creatures who have the capacity to create beauty and destroy said creation with impressive violence. That is the natural law, and the challenge - whether it is in government, the workforce, the culture, or our interpersonal relationships - is to do more creating than destroying.

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SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Freud was not a biologist. The idea that we're so exceptional as to be the only species with any moral direction is laughable. Freud was important in a lot of ways, but I wouldn't look to him as a singular authority any more than I'd say the study of evolution stops at Darwin. Freud's ideas were very clearly influenced by his own neuroses. Furthermore, you say people can choose to follow their superego, but Freud's whole point is that there is an internal battle between the id and the superego, and neither reigns supreme. We are more than just consciousness trapped in bodies. That's not to say I think people are inherently bad. I don't think people are inherently anything. We are highly evolved creatures who have the capacity to create beauty and destroy said creation with impressive violence. That is the natural law, and the challenge - whether it is in government, the workforce, the culture, or our interpersonal relationships - is to do more creating than destroying. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling Last edited by SecretMethod70; 09-11-2009 at 02:25 PM..