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Old 09-11-2009, 02:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
dippin
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Originally Posted by Jinn View Post
Well MSD, I happen to be "with the scientists" too, in the sense that I don't think many reputable environmental scientists deny the existence of global warming. I personally believe it to be anthropogenic but I'm not sure the consensus there is so strong. Ever seen Petition Project?

Global Warming Petition Project

"The current list of petition signers includes 9,029 PhD; 7,153 MS; 2,585 MD and DVM; and 12,711 BS or equivalent academic degrees. Most of the MD and DVM signers also have underlying degrees in basic science.

All of the listed signers have formal educations in fields of specialization that suitably qualify them to evaluate the research data related to the petition statement. Many of the signers currently work in climatological, meteorological, atmospheric, environmental, geophysical, astronomical, and biological fields directly involved in the climate change controversy. "

They have a really good PDF: http://www.petitionproject.com/gw_ar...ew_OISM600.pdf

It looks to be very credible, and I must say that even I am out of my league reading it as a computer engineer. Take a look. It's definitely science, I'm just not qualified to judge its accuracy.

I'm also not sure we should judge the validity of scientific theory on consensus. Plenty of people have been in consensus about very wrong things.
In science consensus is not determined by raw numbers (most of which have nothing at all to do with climate change) but the opinion of those who specifically research global warming. Of the 30000, only 39 in that petition have degrees in climatology.


Science is specialized enough that having a degree in a related field, and often in the same field, doesnt qualify you as an expert unless you actually do the research there.
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