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Old 09-08-2009, 12:11 PM   #153 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by biznatch View Post
Ace,
The "lack of trust" gets to a point where it's hard to believe we live in a same country. Also, let's talk about trust.. you give it to Palin, who starts this death panel BS. Then, (hopefully), you see it's not true, how can you keep trusting someone who makes allegations like this?
For the 5th or 6th time I will say the use of the terms "death panel" was inappropriate, however the underlying issue is not. The underlying issue is how government will allocate limited health care resources. Given a private sector we have government (regulation and judicial) as recourse.

I do not agree with Palin 100% of the time, when we disagree I state that.

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Do you really think Obama's gonna march us right into Third Reich mode?
I don't know what you mean by "Third Reich" mode, but based on what I assume you mean I will say no.

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Do you really think he's gonna off your grandma?
My grandmothers are not alive. My mother-in-law, on Medicare, recently had a required medical procedure done - the doctor prescribed a medicine that cost about $1,500 - the doctor was questioned by Medicare and had to justify his decision to government bureaucrats. I think we face some tough choices in the future, I am not clear on how Obama's plan will address these issues in the future. In direct response to you question I say - no. However, I have concerns and questions - don't you?

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There comes a point where maybe a human being gains the ability to think critically, and not believe outrageous, unfounded, crazy shit....no???
I never had the intent of holding my son out of school, however I was offended by what Obama originally stated his plan was.

{added} That stuff with my mother-in-law occurred on a Friday afternoon, my wife and her sister had to raise holy hell to get the issue resolved before everyone shut down for the weekend. If they had not gotten involved my mother-in-law would have gone about 2 1/2 days without the medication.

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Originally Posted by rahl View Post
Perhaps, I read too fast and I may be prone to miss things from time to time - so do me a favor and restate your question and I will respond.[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]

Do you believe that a message directed to school children about the importance of staying in school, working hard, and taking personal responsibility is a bad message?

No. It is a good message.

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If you do not, then how can you be even the slightest bit upset that the president of the united states is giving said message to the nations children?
First, it is an issue of timing. He is giving the message at a time when his favorability ratings are falling. "Kissing babies" is a common political ploy, I don't like it, I think it is the one of the worst things a politician can do.

Second, he gave the children an assignment - write a letter explaining how you can help the President. I found that offensive and contributed to my thought that he was politicizing his message to children.

Third, being from Illinois, Obama as a State Representative and a Senator representing Illinois and one of the worst school districts in the nation (Chicago) I was offended by the thought that he did nothing to improve Chicago schools and now wants to address America's schools

Fourth, Obama is a public official who sends his children to private school.

Fifth, Obama is sending his children to a private school in DC and is not affording the same opportunity to other children in DC through the opportunity scholarship.

Sixth, Duncan his Sec of Education was a patronage appointment in my view.

All of the above offended me. Call me absurd, ignore my thoughts, create your false arguments, blame conservative talking heads, whatever...but Obama has a credibility problem and it is his problem not mine.
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