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This thread is venturing into dangerous ground, full of the possibilities of personal attacks - and there are several posts dangerously close to that line. There have been several suggestions to lock the thread by a few members. Whether or not that happens is completely dependent on all the posts that follow this one. Please tread lightly and use your back button liberally.
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"There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush
"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo
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