Vigilante

@ Lasereth

Meh. Science is here, anything supernatural is immeasurably beyond here. When it comes down to it, if you believe in such things, science becomes a joke as does all of this plane of existence. That's not a justification for ignoring, it's just where I've come with this. I'm not here to prove anything. I'm here to live and learn. If someone proves it then I could sit back and say "I told you so" but other than that, I don't feel the drive to show the world anything. If anything, I'd like to meet more people that have experiences like mine so we can compare notes, which of course means not in the literal sense. It's not about making someone believe, it's about trying to make sense of what I see as an individual.

However I do see your point, it would be fascinating if the masses could see it for the first time and collectively say "oh shit!". Really, you can. Go watch a show like ghosthunters. Jason and Grant don't bullshit. I wouldn't watch any other show, just that one. Watch the lighthouse episode. Last time I put the video on this forum, no one replied with anything. I think the silence may have meant something, but I didn't bother reading into it much. Even so, when the video is put right in front of a skeptic, they say it's BS, editing, CGI, whatever. For them it is a catch 22 - if they see it on video, it's BS but if they see it in real life they will believe (or simply pass it off as a moment of insanity and move on). However since they don't believe or since they ignore it as momentary insanity, they will never see it in real life. I saw the vid, and I've seen movement just like what you see in that vid, but with my own eyes. It's real folks, call it what you want. But, when you see people's reactions (and perhaps your own) saying "oh that's just bullshit" then what are we, as people who do know, supposed to do? Just live life, and learn what we can, as individuals. Now you see why I don't bother.

Additionally, I don't have the mental/spiritual skill to prove anything. Most of what I've experienced would only be a personal experience, with a few rare cases. Words are words, and to make a log would be no different than reading a book written by a psychic, which is in many cases, a laughable tale to the outsider.

Believe or not. This isn't religion, it's spirituality. You take what you want from it and leave the rest. We have no desire to "convert" anyone, at least most people I've met, don't.

BTW the log entry I put in as example was real. I watched a figure approximately 5 1/2 - 6 feet tall walk half way across my bedroom last night, with no apparent knowledge of me or my wife laying in bed 4 feet away. The form was blob-like but humanoid in shape, and all I saw was profile, no detail. It was darker than it's surroundings, as many are. That means nothing in terms of "negative" or whatever. It walked to the left and went straight through the closet door on its way. It lasted for ~2 seconds, so I had plenty of time to realize I was looking at it and it wasn't going away.

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I'll answer in order according to what I've learned. These are my truths, and truth may be relative to the individual. Keep that in mind.

Yes. Ignore them and one of two things will happen - either they get stronger/more apparent, or they go away. They don't actually go away, you just don't get the meaning. I see signs sometimes, but they are often reminders to keep me grounded, rather than showing me that I'm loved. Some are both.

They are not in this universe. This universe is just a big ball, or whatever shape you prefer, since we can't really determine it anyways. They are just the other side of a "veil" ( the common term used) on another plane of existence. I've seen some strange things relating to this plane, but it's true meaning is a complete mystery to me. I try to accept not understanding it, or how this all ties together.

Nothing should be literal when it comes to this. Sure they could be above, or below, or seemingly out of sync, appearing halfway through the floor. Our minds perceive in ways that we can't explain completely, almost dream-like. We try to make sense of things that don't make sense, and they try to show in ways that make sense to us. With those translations, sometimes things just look..weird. Sure, above is a decent analogy, since one might think of that plane as a "higher" plane of existence.

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