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Originally Posted by roachboy
libertarians.
edited by dk: alot of blah blah about how the last 150 years has taken the constitution in another direction, it's reality, and it's never going back to your stone age ideology so get off the high horse.
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pretty much what you're saying? that progressive is just the way it's going to have to be?
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Originally Posted by Derwood
Most weren't.
But the framers were.
Coincidence that they didn't want things like taxes, etc? When you take the small handful of rich, smart people in an infant nation and let them make all the decisions, it's no surprise that there is not language detailing helping out the poor and stupid (which was just about everyone else in the country at the time).
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the 'old rich white guy slave owners' argument. gets em every time.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Pretty much....labor laws, environmental laws, food/product safety laws, scientific/medical r&d, social safety nets, etc.
Call me stupid but I have yet to see where the Libertarian free market did this on its own....anywhere in the world at any time in history.
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ok, if we pay the government to guarantee safe food products, how come they aren't held responsible when they fail at it?
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