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Old 09-01-2009, 07:35 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
Putting aside the property questions....you are suggesting that in 1820, it was unconstitutional to ask about occupation (farming/commerce/manufacturing)?

Based on what? Your interpretation of "enumeration" and "in the manner directed by law" is the only valid interpretation?

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The third census in 1810 included data on "the arts and manufactures of the United States of America, for the year 1810" ....certainly more than a simple "enumeration" of persons.

Unconstitutional?

Since I do not know the "purpose" of collecting that data at that time, I can't say. The Constitution states that the enumeration is taken for the purpose of apportionment and direct taxes. If the purpose of the question was to directly tax, then...

What I do know is that the purpose of asking the questions on today's census is to distribute federal money in entitlement programs. Asking the questions for that purpose is expressly outside the bounds of the Constitution and is therefore unconstitutional. As much as all of you would like to think that it is, you are wrong. Even Roachboy.

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Whatever is the fact that based on 200 years of precedent, your constitutional argument is weak if not baseless.

It is also a fact the right has perpetuated myths about this year's census (expressly intending to count illegals, paying ACORN,...) and it is reasonable to assume it is with a political motivation and not for noble principles to preserve the Constitution.

And that is all that roachboy and I and other have said.....there have been no personal attacks.
As I am not a part of the right, I don't care what they say. I draw my own conclusions from the actions of the government.
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