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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
maybe I missed a post, but I haven't seen anyone say that the census count of number of people in a household is unconstitutional, especially since it says it right there in the constitution
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The basic census form has been more than just a count of the number of people in a household for more than 150 years.
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The diehard Libertarians base our constitutional opinions directly from the framers debates. What you're failing to take in to account and how you base your constitutional opinions is the result of 200 years of manipulation by the judiciary.
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So you know exactly what the framers meant by specifically including...."in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."
I base my constitutional opinions on the fact that the framers also provided a role for a federal judiciary to interpret such vague directives:
The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority....
You (Libertarians) characterize that as "judicial manipulation" if it does not conform with your interpretation while I believe it is the judiciary fulfilling its Constitutional role.