First off, I'd like to point out that this thread is titled "Ask An Anarchist...", not "
Attack An Anarchist...". I understand that most people think I'm overly idealistic and don't agree with my beliefs at all, but I created this thread to give some insight into what I believe because of the misconceptions surrounding the word anarchist.
I'm not here to convert you, so please don't try to convert me.
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Originally Posted by new man
It seems to me that humanity all over the world and in various groups and situations rose out of a so called anarchistic society to evolve various forms of govt and laws and so forth. Why would what you have to propose or support be any different than what has been rejected thousands of times before?
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I feel that the way the human race lived before we "rose up" and created government and law was a better way of life than what we do now. I'm not proposing anything new, but I am trying to have as much of the old idea in my life as I can.
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Originally Posted by new man
Also, I have seen pictures of you in threads before. In an anarchistic society I could give you a tire iron and still make you my bitch barehanded, how would that serve you? Why would you want to be in a society where you would be in a perpetual disadvantage to people who are smarter, stronger, and better organized then you? You scrounge food, I take it from you. With true equality, I think you would find that things are very unequal. In the animal world you so admire, do you think you would be the rabbit or mouse eaten by the cat, the cat chased by the dog, the deer that gets eaten by carnivores, or the fish that gets caught by a simple lure?
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Actually, you'd be surprised at what I can do with a tire iron...
Also, I've spent plenty of my life living on the streets to understand what fending for yourself is like.
Thanks for the presumptuous insults, though. They really benefit the basis of my thread.
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Originally Posted by new man
You mentioned that you are forced to follow rules you don't believe in, or see the point in. Can you please supply some examples of these rules? Maybe a lack of understanding on your part leads to the place you are now. Considering that the majority of people who espouse anarchy come from a white privileged background in a culture and society that tolerates their youthful enthusiasm, compared to someplace like China, or the middle east, or Africa, or pretty much any place outside of America and Europe, and that those who espoused anarchy twenty years ago no longer can be found, would those former anarchists have been coopted by the system, disappeared into black vans, or made a decision that they find life more comfortable when they live in a functioning society?
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Rules that tell me how to live my life. I shoot some Heroin. Prison. Why? I hire a prostitute. Jail time. Why? There's a couple examples.
The point is, I didn't have a say in the rules, why should I have to follow them? Furthermore, I don't feel we need established laws or law makers. I think we'd all be a lot better off if we were left to handle our own business the way we see fit.
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Originally Posted by ring
Punk man,
I am sorry.
My first post, after I read it sounded a tad surly and condescending.
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I did not take any offense to your first post. The OP was written pretty anemically. To be fair, though, I was quite drunk.
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Originally Posted by ring
By your definition:
Absolute power is corruptive,
yet you want humans to live by a 'law' of jungle animals that have been
way to busy just being animals to ever actually sit down and write out said 'law'
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There is no strict law with wild animals. Everything is situational, and if there's a dispute it's handled by the strongest.
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Originally Posted by ring
Your comment about 'standing alone' in your belief,
is both naive and narcissistic. I've been there.
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I didn't mean to come off that way. I was simply trying to say that I understood when I made the thread that I was leaving myself open to being attacked from all different sides.
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Originally Posted by biznatch
You mentioned animals living in anarchy, but that's not entirely true. Wolves have pack leaders. Ants are kinda of like a single organism in every anthill, with each ant acting like a cell. Societies with rules, and roles for every member exist in Nature too. Some species are loners, but social tendencies exist in the animal world, and often resemble those in humanity.
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You didn't pose any question to me, but I want to respond to what you have to say.
As I said earlier, I am not against social structure, I am against governmental systems.
Animals don't have to deal with concepts such as money, establishment, government, or corporation. These are the things I'm against.