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Old 08-24-2009, 02:54 PM   #31 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by Derwood View Post
O RLY? Thomas Jefferson et. al. weren't the government? Maybe not as they wrote "We the People", but they were the moment it was ratified (or soon thereafter)
the citizens of every state had to vote in order for the state reps to ratify the constitution. I'm fairly certain that you know the history of the constitution and the numerous debates that happened in order to ratify it, yes?

if you know this history, then you know it is a document of, for, and by the people.

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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
The first thing I mentioned was the amendment process. So "yes it does". The second thing, the jurisdiction of the courts, is a gray area at best. Read Jefferson on the SCOTUS.
I've read Jefferson on SCOTUS and it HAS become the behemoth he predicted.

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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
It's not evolution if the SCOTUS does it. The responsibility of the SCOTUS is to interpret the law, and if they interpret it a given way, that's the way we interpret it until the next time it's decided on. What I'm talking about in the OP, and what you often talk about, is that we have opinions that strongly differ from the SCOTUS. You and I both are welcome to our opinion, but they're not more than opinions.
You say that SCOTUS is the end all be all of law interpretation, but you are wrong. 'we the people' are always the final say in the laws and how they work within the constitution and towards the government.
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