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Old 08-22-2009, 12:55 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Vigilante View Post
Agreed. I don't want to pay for someone's food when they have too many kids to feed them, due to lack of education and willpower. I don't want to pay for someone to take methadone to kick a habit. I do, however, feel fine contributing to education, college, condoms. Environmental awareness. Hydrogen fuel research, or better yet, solar.
Yes, let's punish the kids for choosing to be born to irresponsible parents. Sounds like a great idea. If it were a perfect world, we could help out the kids and make sure they get necessary nutrition while also not making it any easier on the irresponsible parents. It's not a perfect world, though, and all you end up doing is making sure the kids aren't fully nourished during important developmental stages, grow up less capable, and become more likely to make the same stupid and irresponsible mistakes their parents made.

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No one is arguing for socialization. The current health care debate is for a public option. And not even public medicine, just public payment. The practitioners are still independent of the government (at least, as independent as they are from the insurance companies, which is, admittedly, not entirely), and people who do not want the basic coverage the government is willing to pay for can choose a private company instead. Debate whether or not that's a good thing; fine. Don't call it something it is not. It's not socialism, and it's not even close.
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