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Old 08-17-2009, 12:22 PM   #289 (permalink)
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this is absurd. the way in which this "death panel" nonsense and other such conservative horseshit gets traction is a simple function of two things: repetition and exposure.
there persists this kinda ridiculous idea that the right has something to say worth hearing on this question. why, i have no idea. but it's out there. one result of this is that folk give exposure to the nonsense that's being repeated from the right and worse allow the debates, such as they are in this degenerate entertainment environment, to be framed by conservative nonsense. when conservatives are dismissed for obviously saying nothing about the actual issues at hand because, typically, they haven't read the bill and/or rely on geniuses like limbaugh to read it for them, they then can whine about how theyre being marginalized. which itself gets repeated and that repetition gets exposure.

this is how news cycle conflict works. it isn't about anything except getting the meme exposed. its not about a coherent alternative, it's not even about the debate except insofar as stopping the debate is about the debate. it's about grinding the conversation to a halt and hoping to appear powerful for having done it.

ace has played the same tiresom game in this thread, and the thread's gone the same way as the larger debate.
you can't refute his arguments because they're all just floated to see which one sticks.
dippin's demolished ace's claims again and again, but it doesn't matter, he just makes up another claim.

this isn't rocket science, what's happening.

what's mystifying--still---is the apparent assumption that there's some political gain to be had for conservatives by playing this odious little game, disabling a debate about a quite important topic.

i hope the insurance companies that are funnelling money into rightwing populist organizations in order to support their disabling of the debate are happy. because they're the only imaginable beneficiaries of the tactic.

this is about as depressing a demonstration of just how fucked up american "democracy" had become as i've ever seen, this "national debate" that's turned into a display of nativist lunacy, turned into noise.
the thread's just a tiresome mirror image of all that.
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