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third_eye_open · 08-17-2009, 10:43 AM

Ok I know religion is yet another highly contested subject but I believe it is relevant. How many people around the world believe in a higher being who's existence is impossible to prove?

Referring to the dream argument, it was argued that dreams cannot be proven but are significant because everyone has them. So it's safe to say you are arguing for majority rule? If that's your argument then wouldn't that also apply to religion? If billions of people believe in a higher being can that be counted as "irrefutable proof?"

I believe that if ghosts exist, the reason most of us can't see them is based on the filters we construct for ourselves. We have (as proven by this discussion) the need to apply logic and reason to the world and we tend to fear anything that we don't understand or can't explain. In the case of ghosts they are associated with death which is a primal fear therefore I believe that the fear is strong enough we develop to ability to block them out.

Personally I am on the fence about ghosts. There are a lot of things in this world we have yet to discover so I have my eyes and mind open to possibilities.

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Oh and as far as science and empirical evidence, there is no such thing as "proof" in science. There are only accepted theories. Many of those theories were thought to just as ridiculous as the theory of the existence of ghosts (like flight).

08-17-2009, 10:43 AM	#119 (permalink)
third_eye_open Upright	What about.... Ok I know religion is yet another highly contested subject but I believe it is relevant. How many people around the world believe in a higher being who's existence is impossible to prove? Referring to the dream argument, it was argued that dreams cannot be proven but are significant because everyone has them. So it's safe to say you are arguing for majority rule? If that's your argument then wouldn't that also apply to religion? If billions of people believe in a higher being can that be counted as "irrefutable proof?" I believe that if ghosts exist, the reason most of us can't see them is based on the filters we construct for ourselves. We have (as proven by this discussion) the need to apply logic and reason to the world and we tend to fear anything that we don't understand or can't explain. In the case of ghosts they are associated with death which is a primal fear therefore I believe that the fear is strong enough we develop to ability to block them out. Personally I am on the fence about ghosts. There are a lot of things in this world we have yet to discover so I have my eyes and mind open to possibilities. ---------- Post added at 11:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:05 AM ---------- Oh and as far as science and empirical evidence, there is no such thing as "proof" in science. There are only accepted theories. Many of those theories were thought to just as ridiculous as the theory of the existence of ghosts (like flight).