Originally Posted by roachboy

it may be that one of the things which informs more conservative viewpoints in general is either a refusal or inability (hard to say which) to think in terms of system.
it is self-evident that salaries are transfers of money from one place to another. it is self evident, then, that what you own is possible because you participate in a particular network of transfers. you sell your labor power in exchange for access to that network. what you do within that network is expend your energy for a wage or a salary.

i think conservative viewpoints like to imagine that there is no system, but rather value originates with their activity. this leads to all kinds of strange consquences logically and analytically when seen from the other, general perspective.