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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
did you miss the point or are you obtuse?
lets be more accurate. I said PEOPLE create democracies, guns keep them that way. Can guns also destroy them? yes, but in the face of violent oppression your right to free speech only gets you killed.
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I just love this beautiful world of make believe where actual history doesn't matter.
But hey, Im guessing the UK isnt a democracy then. Or India. Or Spain. Or Brazil. The real democracies must be Somalia, Angola, Iraq and Sierra Leone.
This is not to say that guns are bad, but the real point is that from a democracy point of view, they are irrelevant.
If you want to defend your gun rights because they are your rights, great.
But let's not substitute dreams for actual history. Never mind that most of democracies established during the so called third wave of democratization happened without a gun in sight or the threat of violence use. Solidarnosc, "Diretas Ja," "Revolucao dos Cravos," "Pactos de la Moncloa," and on and on...