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Originally Posted by aceventura3
The homicide rate for people born in 2009 is most likely zero.
The homicide rate in 2010 for people born in 2009 is also close to zero.
The homicide rate in 2011 for people born in 2009 is also close to zero.
Etc.
Etc.
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You've descended into absurdity again. I have no idea what you could possibly be trying to say with this. It's just meaningless words.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
does your analysis take into consideration the cumulative impact of the difference between the two countries?
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I can only assume you're referring to the difference in homicide rates. No, I did not factor that in. Instead, I excluded the impact of homicide rates entirely from the US statistics, while not altering the statistics from any other country. It was a fairly simple subtraction problem. Given that homicide tends to be fatal, we can assume that the mortality rates in Canada and the UK are including murders in their numbers.
There is no possible way this data could be weighted more strongly in favour of the US, and the US healthcare system still comes out looking worse.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Secondly, if we look at probabilities of homicide, from the source cited below it shows the lifetime odds of death in the US in 1996 by homicide is 1:169 or 592 in every 100,000. That is .6%
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I don't have comparable data for Canada, but if it is 1/3, the rate for Canada would be about .2%. One of the keys is when these homicides occur. compared to an 80 average year life span, if the homicides occur in the years of let's say 18 to 25 it would have a bigger impact than if they occurred 48 to 55.
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None of this is even slightly relevant to the discussion. Lifetime statistics are meaningless here, because you're not comparing directly to overall mortality statistics. Homicide rates amongst 18-25 year olds is relevant when viewed in the context of mortality in general amongst 18-25 year olds. It's not relevant when viewing the overall mortality rate. I have no interest in going through this age group by age group, although you're welcome to do so if you really think that will bear any fruit.
Homicide rates are higher in the US than in Canada, and I'm pretty sure they're higher than in the UK as well. I'd be glad to discuss the reasons for that in a separate thread.
None of this has any relevance whatsoever to a discussion regarding healthcare.
Let's move on. Please.