Quote:
Originally Posted by aceventura3
In a country like Zimbabwe in Africa they spend about $300 per year per person on food. The Zimbabwe GDP is about $300 per person according to Wikipedia. Zimbabwe spends about 100% of their economy on food, not counting what is donated. Zimbabwe ranked 155 in the Health care report. What do you conclude from this random bit of information, nothing.
Here is a link to "food" data:
Per capita food expenditures declining around the world. - Free Online Library |
You can't be serious here. You really can't. So you don't want to use data weighed on GDP? Fine, but you do realize that it UNDERMINES your point, right? Because the difference between what the US spends and other nations spend on healthcare actually INCREASES if you just use the dollar amount. Do you not understand that? Are you just trying to string together words to pretend you have a point?
Quote:
Now according to the World Health Organization the life expectancy in Japan, highest, was 74.5. For the US the number was 70.0 Here is their definition of how they came up with the number, and the link:
Here is their explanation:
World Health Organization Disability Adjusted Healthy Life Expectancy Table (HALE)
Here is a link to data from our National vital Statistics report from the CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr56/nvsr56_09.pdf
Page 30 shows life expectancy of a person born in 2004 of 77.8, compared to the 70.0 number above and the 74.5 number for Japan. Then if we look in the data (realizing this is a nation with racial issues with blacks and Hispanics - legal and illegal) if we look at white people only, the life expectancy is - 78.3 compared to 69.5 for black males.
So, what do you conclude from those bits of information?
Then if we look at something like homicide, which has an impact on life expectancy. We find that the US had a homicide rate 3.3 times higher than Canada in 2000. Here is a link to a report:
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-...001011-eng.pdf
What do you conclude from that?
How does the WHO report adjust for these kinds of factors when coming to a conclusion about health care? You don't know, I ask questions. You take the report on blind faith, I challenge the report. You think I have a problem, I don't. I spend time connecting dots, do you?
---------- Post added at 08:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:52 PM ----------
Did you read what I was responding to? I get tired of the line about how liberals protest against war. That is bull shit. They risk nothing when they go out and do their little protests.
|
Have you actually read anything at all that has been posted on this thread? It is not just life expectancy that the US does worse than other developed nations. It's infant mortality (not too many homicides there), it's number of doctor visits, it's hospital beds available, it's yearly mortality rates, it's adult mortality rates net of homicides and injuries, it's newborns with low birth weight, it's mortality by infectious disease, and so on and so on.
On one post you are saying that the US healthcare system is wonderful because you don't want to live longer anyways, on the other you are saying that all statistics are wrong....