EDIT: OOPS, I forgot this was a pub discussion and put an awesome quote by James Madison (one of your precious Founding Fathers, Cimaron) who scorned the notion that Constitutional rights should be withheld from aliens inside the US. He said that by the same logic our laws don't apply to them either, which is obviously even more absurd than extending them Constitutional protections. But since this is a Pub Discussion, I can't cite that quote. So the closest I can come is to say "neener neener".
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Originally Posted by rahl
In the state of Ohio Workers Compensation is mandatory for all businesses to provide for employees. The same for West Virginia. Ohio is Single Payer by the state. Wv is private. Both are very efficient. If someone is hurt at work and files a comp claim they immediatly must take a drug test to be eligible. In other words if you are doing somethng detrimental to your health and get hurt at work your claim will be denied. This is for both single payer and private. Would something like this be acceptable in whatever form the healthcare reforms will take? Should drug related health problems or obesity related problems be punished?
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I don't know about "punished" exactly, but I think it should inform the range of treatment that person is given. If somebody's messed up on drugs at work and drops something on themself and breaks their leg, I'm not going to just let them limp around. Gotta fix the leg. But at some point, drug rehab needs to be part of their treatment plan.
You get into some weird privacy stuff when you start doing tox-screens and Chem-7 tests as part of general trauma intake. But if you made it policy to do that to everyone, you can't be accused of prejudice. Especially if what comes next is treatment (versus punishment).